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start up problem
deerslayer Jan-27-01 10:42 PM
i got a problem, when pc boots the win 98 logo comes up, i hit escape and see drivers load then right before the logon screen, i get
while initializing device icsharep:
windows protection error, you need to restart your computer.
I can boot to safe mode, tried a scan disk, tried a defrag, did a msconfig and shut everything down, still not working.
I tired to reinstall win 98se, but in safe mode no cd rom drivers. tried to boot from floppy, but when i got to run setup after i load with cd rom support i get the old you need windows to run this program. i ran into this before where it won't let you install 98se unless running windows.
i also tried swapping ram with different pc and it did the same thing.

any ideas Larry? hate to dump and start over, don't have the time these days.


1. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-27-01 10:54 PM
In response to message 0
weird , I removed ics in safe mode , rebooted and it started up. Reinstalled ics in noraml enviroment and it was fine. Anyone have any experience with this I would be interested in hearing it.

3. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-27-01 11:43 PM
In response to message 1
I see we crossed posts. Larry

2. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-27-01 11:40 PM
In response to message 0
That file is part of ICS and it supposed to be located in C:\windows. I would boot to the safe mode, uninstall ICS and all networking components. If you want to run Win 98 SE setup from the DOS prompt, run it from D:\win98, not D:\. I usually make a C:\windows\options\cabs folder, copy D:\win98\*.* to it, and install from C: That way the next time windows wants a driver, etc. it will get it from C: and you won’t have to go fetch the Win CD. Use setup /ie to avoid having to make a recovery floppy.

Almost got my "million dollar" wall finished. It is the wall that replaced the two garage doors on my new office/shop (my house has two insulated garages with chimneys; this was the smaller one—750 square feet—and is behind the larger, three-car garage). I have spent months on that 9 X 24-foot wall. The outside has been sheathed with half-inch plywood and sided with 12” wide, vertical shiplap pine, and a new floodlight has been installed. The stove is installed. The electrical is almost done. The cable and phone lines are in. The dry wall is up and painted. Today we (Claudia is helping) finished the trim on the new six-foot sliding glass door. The trim on the window that replaced the other garage door, rejuvenating (sanding and staining) a 4X6 foot pine book shelf (from the old store) that will be hung on the wall between the door and window, baseboards, and a hanging a neat light fixture, that we bought years ago in Germany, from the ceiling over the sliding door remain to be done. Then I can clean up and organize this terrible mess (from the old store) and enjoy my new playpen. Its warm in here now, except in the mornings when I first start-up the old wood stove. Beats the heck out store hours. Had to tell someone… Larry

4. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-28-01 01:54 AM
In response to message 2
sounds great, need me one of those. got another question, i upgraded from a voodoo 3 3000, to a ati radeon 64mb ddr. Before pulling the voodoo I went to 16 colors, deleted the adapter in device manager, uninstalled voodoo tools in add/remove, then double checked in safe mode to make sure all instances of the driver were gone. Anyway the new card is GREAT, but when I had the error msg I mentioned I noticed in msconfig that there are still voodoo startup files in there. How should I go about getting rid of them??


5. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-28-01 02:56 AM
In response to message 4
While I am on a roll, as for thw in 98 se, When your pc won't boot and you can't get to a dos prompt you need a boot disk. When I boot to 98 disk, I do not know of a way to get win98se to start up from there. I always get that you need windows to run this program. Do you know a way around this IF you can't get windows to start?

6. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-28-01 06:22 PM
In response to message 5
Are you running setup from D:\win98, where D: is your CD-ROM? I tested various things this AM and my Cds don't do that. Larry

7. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-28-01 06:42 PM
In response to message 4
3dfx is no more. Removing zombies went something like this… Look in the control panel, Add/Remove Programs and remove anything starting with 3dfx. Run regedit (Start, Run…). Click My Computer to highlight it, Click Registry in the menu, Export, and browse to convenient folder except Windows, choose a file name (e.g., regbak.reg), make sure All is selected in the Export range, and click Save. That backs-up the registry. Click My Computer to highlight, Edit, Find and hunt for all instances of "Voodoo," "3dfx" and "Glide,” right click and delete them. Larry

8. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-29-01 10:14 AM
In response to message 7
Yea, from what I read the board I retired was the last good board 3dfx made.
As for the win 98 cd, I booted to floppy, chose with cd rom support, then I:
bad file/command
this program requires windows
this program requires windows.
This is pretty strange, If I wanted to repair, reinstall windows assuming that I couldn't boot up to the c drive I would not be able to do so.
I think Bill G. doesn't like me!

9. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-29-01 03:10 PM
In response to message 8
Are you sure it was the Windows 98 SE CD and not that help CD that comes with some packages? What does A:\>dir I:\*.* produce? Look for scratches. Larry

10. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-29-01 03:18 PM
In response to message 9
Yea, I did a dir when I was in the I:\. everything is there. going to ask a friend to check his win 98 se cd and see what happens.

11. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-31-01 10:59 AM
In response to message 9
Well, A friend of mine checked his cd, same results as me. Will not boot to cd from a bootdisk.Maybe I will try ME again soon.Last time I did a clean install, had lots of bugs with software. Was thinking of trying the upgrade this time and if I don't like it revert back to SE. Is there a list of software that is NOT compatable with ME? I had trouble with:Photoshop 5.0, Visioneer paperport ( newest ver. supposed to be for ME) Thumbsplus 4.02 R. I know there was others but it has faded into the oblivion.
Hey Larry, ever thought of starting a new topic? Like performance where people can discuss high end graphics, overclocking (i know you don't approve) etc???

12. RE: start up problem
lbyard Jan-31-01 02:19 PM
In response to message 11
I might be convinced to host it if someone else wants to moderate that forum and I get to post a caveat about the evils overclocking. Larry

13. RE: start up problem
deerslayer Jan-31-01 03:26 PM
In response to message 12
Well, After reading past posts on your dislike of overclocking, I think we would expect it!
I am no expert on that subject or other forms of tweaking but I would give my 2 cents as far a moderating goes. ( i have done a good bit of overclocking with very good results.) I am at your site just about everyday to check out new posts. I often have more questions than answers though. Would there be a way to have new posts to a catagory of this nature emailed to me so I know they are there?


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