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Is Broadband the problem?
Dee Mar-23-02 11:02 AM
Hi all,
I have an xp machine which I am trying to network with a win98 machine using Netgear Home network starter kit SB105. Mechanically all seems well. Lights are on, device manager tells me they are working ok no conflicts.
When running the new network setup in xp I have to choose the first option, ie this machine is connected to internet other machines connect through it. If I select any other my internet connection is lost. If I do select this first option a window tells me there was an error setting up the network and to set it up manually. Even if I do this it does not complete. No network neighborhood icon etc. I don't have any on the Win98 machine either. I have looked for the network log file to see if it would give me a clue as to what's going on but doing an advanced search of the computer says there isn't a log with that name.
I have an NTL broadband connection through an Intel pro card connected to a stb. I have an idea that there is a clash somewhere. I don't even need or want an internet connection on the win98 computer.
If anyone can help, or point me in the general direction I'd be very

1. RE: Is Broadband the problem?
DJ Net2Infinity Mar-23-02 02:20 PM
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Have you looked over http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/win98se/intro.htm ? If you go to start, settings, control panel you can get to your network settings there. And as far as I know your netgear is a hub and not a router if you have your 2 PCs and your cable modem pluged into the hub it is going to act crazy because two machines are trying to request an IP address. Have you set up a local workgroup? or how do you plan on configuring them?

2. RE: Is Broadband the problem?
donv Mar-23-02 05:01 PM
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>I have an NTL broadband connection through an Intel pro card
>connected to a stb.

Hi Dave, i have ntl broadband and a shared connection - currently working ok - but what's an stb?

Try the "How to" guides as suggested, if this doesn't do it, please give some more detailed info.


3. RE: Is Broadband the problem?
Dee Mar-24-02 12:43 PM
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Hi all,
Firstly Don stb is set top box. My cable tv and internet is delivered to the stb. Broadband signals are then routed to an ethernet card in my computer. The newly bought network card is then installed to allow communication to my second computer.
Brian, Yes it is a hub. I don't have the internet connection plugged into the hub. It is plugged into my original ethernet card in my computer. I then installed the new card and connected this to the hub. This in turn is connected to the second computers ethernet card. I have set up both computers with the same workgroup name. I have followed the insstructions that came with the kit to the letter. It doesn't mention anything about ip addresses, keeping it simple I suppose. Although I have had computers since the early 80's and am kept busy setting up friends equipment I have never had anything to do with networks before and it's an unknown country to me. What bothers me is that the windows xp machine wont complete the new network wizard.
Thank you both for replying. Sorry for not making things clearer but as I have said it's difficult to know what is required when it's completely new ground. If you can offer anymore advice please do. I can imagine myself messing around with settings so much it's going to make the OS unstable.

6. RE: Is Broadband the problem?
donv Mar-26-02 07:38 PM
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Dave, thanks for the decyphering advice Re:stb, i must admit i usually refer to it as the "cable modem" but what's in a name?

I can't comment on xp, have only got win2k & 98 on my machines, however, is the client nic set to obtain an IP address automatically? If not this may be the conflict that is stopping the wizard.

ICS generally expects to set the host (your xp machine) up to and then the client(s) up sequentially i.e for your second machine. I've tried setting this up statically myself and ICS does not seem to like it!

If client nic address is dynamically assigned, check the actual assigned address using run: winipcfg. This will be one of probably two on the drop down list - PPP is usually your dial up adapter, but you want the one with the same name as the nic.

If the address starts 169.xx etc then this is a "local" only network where the client has not been told it is part of an ICS set up. To set this up correctly, you can refer to the relevant "How to" guide for detailed instructions, but in outline, this tells you to go to the TCP/IP settings for the nic and to click the settings tab, then to add a gateway "" and restart.

Two closing thoughts:
I may be on a wild goose chase (it's late and i've had a couple of beers!).
I currently have a bee in my bonnet regarding firewalls, particularly ZoneAlarm. If you have a firewall installed close and uninstall it before sweating more blood!!

Good luck and good night;

5. RE: Is Broadband the problem?
lbyard Mar-25-02 11:58 AM
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In the computer with two network adapters, try going into the CMOS Setup and disabling all motherboard devices that you are not using (COM ports, USB, etc.). Try moving the new network adapter to a new PCI slot and do not use the one next to the display adapter. I'll have to setup an XP scratch machine to go further, but can do it if others can't help with that part of it. Larry

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