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Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-03-01 01:39 PM
Hi Everyone,
I built a new PC fairly recently (Feb) and have been very chuffed with its performance so far. Whilst checking out my motherboard's features (Gigabyte GA-7ZXR), I noticed STR, or Suspend To RAM. This sounded like a cool feature that would enable me to 'boot' up my computer and frantically load Cubase VST to catch an inspired musical moment. Unfortunately, I can't get my computer to shutdown into STR mode using Win '98 SE.

I don't really know how to check if Windows is in ACPI mode (it detects ACPI in the system properties page, if that means anything) and I don't fancy reinstalling, using the required switches, to make sure Windows installs in ACPI mode. Is there a way I can check?

I also recently tried the 'regestry fix' I've seen dotted around on the Net, concerning entering a new string in the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Detect' key, along the lines of 'ACPIOption "1"' and deleting the timecheck entry. Nothing.

I had set the required jumper on my mobo set correctly (a cute little green LED lets me know when STR is operational), set the BIOS up according to the manual to use STR, but still my computer freezes to an unrecoverable state when standing by (it doesn't power down as you'd expect with STR, but acts as though it's just standing by - and I can't wake it up when it's in this state at all, so I just reset). The computer dutyfully shuts/powersdown normally.

The manual mentioned a few hardware requirements for STR, such as a power supply that provides at least 720mA 5V standby current. I've tried to check my power supply, but I can't see anything that states the standby current rating (I use an AOpen HX-08 case with a 300W power supply for my Duron 800).

Er... what else? That's about the size of it anyway. It's not a major problem, and like I say, everything else has worked flawlessly with only a few crashes. It's just a shame there's a useful feature that I can't seem to use.

I didn't think that Win '98 could use STR, only Win ME with its Hibernate function, but the mobo manual says it can. Hmmm.

Here's the lowdown on the rest of my setup anyway, just in case you can see anything that may be the cause of this 'ickle problem:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-7ZXR (with latest BIOS version F6) using extra 2 IDE ports as ATA100s rather than RAID array.

Processor: Duron 800.

Memory: Slot 1 - 128 Crucial Tech.
Slot 2 - 256 Crucial Tech = 384MB.

Graphics: AGP Hercules 3D Prophet II MX 32MB (single display).

Soundcard: Original SBLive! (PCI 5) (I intend to ditch this for a Mia/Audiophile when I've got the cash!)

Drives: Quantum Fireball 2Gig (ironic name, there).
Maxtor Diamonmax 15Gig.
Matshita CDROM.
Plextor 16x CDRW.
- All connected to their own separate IDE interface.

Diamond Supraexpress 56k internal (PCI 1).

Probably more information than you guys need, but it's best to be on the safe side! If anyone could help me out I'd be very grateful. It doesn't seem like a simple solution (to me anyway!). *Phew*!

Cheers,

Chris.

Ochre
www.mp3.com/ochre


1. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
lbyard Jun-03-01 05:17 PM
In response to message 0
In windows check the status of Start, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager, System devices, …ACPI (BIOS). See if the label on the power supply matches any of those listed at http://english.aopen.com.tw/products/power/. Try disabling DMA on drives to see if one of them is using _GTF method support (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q239/7/00.ASP?). Do you have a network adapter in the computer? ICS? Try disabling USB to see if it is causing the problem. Larry

2. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-03-01 06:17 PM
In response to message 1
Thanks for the tips, Larry, I'll try them out and let you know.

Thanks again,

Chris.


3. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-03-01 06:31 PM
In response to message 1
Yup, the ACPI BIOS is apparently working fine.
My power supply is ATX 2.03 compliant, exceeding the necessary STR requirements, I think.
Ah, DMA - I'll try and disable DMA on my drives and see if that helps.
I have no network adapter and no USB devices (but I do have the USB controller thingy active - I'll disable).

Chris.


4. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-03-01 06:55 PM
In response to message 1
Nope, nothing helped unfortunately, couldn't even standby normally, still. What's ICS?

Ho hum,

Chris.


5. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
lbyard Jun-03-01 09:56 PM
In response to message 4
Internet Connection Sharing.

6. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-04-01 12:55 PM
In response to message 5
Oh. That'll be a 'no', then. I think.

Cheers,


7. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
lbyard Jun-04-01 03:10 PM
In response to message 6
I would Start, Run, msconfig and turnoff startup programs. If that didn’t work I would start stripping hardware (and CMOS Setup) down to bare essentials in an effort to discover what is causing the problem. Larry

8. RE: Win 98 SE STR Standby Problems - Please help me!
Chris Ochre Jun-04-01 05:11 PM
In response to message 7
Yeah, I was afraid it would come to removing hardware. I already tried booting with just the essentials, but I guesss I'm going to have to strip cards to see if any of them dislike STR (well, all two of them, anyway).

Thanks for all your help, Larry, I really appreciate it.

Chris.


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