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I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
Tonyraye Oct-19-01 08:30 PM
I have never built a computer before but I am very intrested in learning and I figure the best way to learn is to ask lot of questions read lots of information and just jump right in. I know problems will arise but with lots of help I can avoid alot of situations.Ok here was what I was looking at for my components.

CPU- 1.4 T-bird 266 fsb
Motherboard- asus a7v266
10 gig hard drive
350 watt power supply
512 ddr ram
geforce2mx400 64mb video card
have not deceided on the sound card yet
and I already have the floppy drive, cd-rom, and burner.

Here is another question. I have read that AMD's run really hot and someone said I should cut a hole in my tower right behind where the cpu will be and run a "#####" fan. I was also looking at having one fan ##### air in and two fans blowing air out. All advice would be appreciated and if anyone knows of a site that can give me a "How to Guide" with these components I would really be thnakful.


1. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
Aehs Oct-20-01 01:20 AM
In response to message 0
I've never used one but from reading reviews and peoples posts in forums the Thermalright SK-6 is commonly used. I'm going to be using one with my Athlon XP.

Check out:
http://www.plycon.com/tright.htm


2. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
deerslayer Oct-22-01 02:58 PM
In response to message 1
The sk 6 is an excellent cooler. I have 2 of them.
As for your computer you are building, if you are going to be doing any gaming the video card you have chosen is going to be a serious bottle neck. I would suggest nothing slower/ older then a Nvidia GTS or a Radeon 64 ddr.If you want this pc to last longer, I would get a Nvidia geforce 3 or a ATI 8500.
As for asembling of your pc, Larry has a guide.

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/buildcom/athlon/ath_1.htm

Pentium 3 1000 @ 1100 ( windows 2000 server), Abit bx-133, 256 Mb Mushkin Rev.3 cas 2-2-2, ATI Radeon
AMD Thunderbird 1.4 @ 1.63 (24/7) IWILL KK266R , Corsairs pc 150 cl2, Leadtek GeForce 3


6. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
Howard Dec-16-01 00:43 AM
In response to message 2
Don't jump to quickly to shell out a bunch of bucks for the latest video card. I am into flight sims and read a recent article that MS FS 2002 runs better (%10+)with a GeF 2 than the GeF 3. This is due to features that the GeF 3 has that are not used by some games or sims resulting in a performance "hit."

Howard
Miami Fl


3. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
lbyard Oct-23-01 07:48 PM
In response to message 0
I would get a Palomino core Athlon (Athlon XP). They are faster and are supposed to run 20% cooler. In my opinion, the Athlon XP 1600+ (1.4 GHz) has the best performance to price ratio for high performance PCs. I plan to build three computers with that processor this week. I will be using the new EpoX 8KHA+ motherboard with the VIA KT266A chipset. Recent reports on the Internet suggest that the KT266A chipset is the fastest one available for the Socket A Athlon (Thunderbird and Palomino--XP) processors. I am taking a bit of chance with this motherboard because it is so new, but reports on Internet in Europe indicate that it is a very good board. See http://duxcw.com/dcforum/DCForumID5/518.html. I will be using 256 Mbytes of 2100 DDR (266 MHz) memory in each machine. Two of the computers will also have 30 Gig, 7,200 drives (more than enough for the average user), 250 MByte IDE zip drives, Sony CDRewriter CRX1611 16X/10X/40X CD-RW drives, Abit GeForce1 MX200 32MB AGP Display Adapters (not a top-end gamer’s board, but a very good one for the average user), Acer 19” monitors (put the money where it counts), Focus keyboards (http://duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Keyboards/foc2001.htm), Acer mice with scroll feature, and an Antec KS282 cases with 300 Watt power supplies (http://duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Cases/antec/ks282.htm). The third one will not have a zip drive and will have a 52X CD-ROM instead of a CD-RW drive. I plan to install one additional Antec case fan at the rear of the chassis, and that should be quite sufficient. I have built several Athlon computers with this case and fan combination and they have an excellent track record.

If I were to use a guide for building these computers it would be the one at http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/buildcom/socka/1.htm, which states:

“The steps we used to build the computer are presented as a detailed check list with notes and pictures. This check list should serve as a good guide for those building an Athlon-based computer with components other than the specific ones used to build the computer used as an example.”

Larry


5. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
andycasey Dec-15-01 09:47 AM
In response to message 0
hey i just built and athlon based computer. i have the xp 1800+, and dont really have any problems with the heat. although it does get hot. what i did was put a 8cm case fan at the front. as an intake, then right under the video card which is the msi gforce 3 ti500 (i highly recommend that one) i placed a card fan that acts like a muffler pushing the exhaust and heat out the back, since i have done that i have cooled the core temperature by 15 degrees. the video card puts off a lot of heat and can influence the cpu also, so thats what i did. the asus is good but did you think of the msi k7t266 pro-ru, that is what i am running and amd also agrees that with any of the palomino cpu's, is a good bet for stability and optimal proformance. hope this helps andy

7. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
falconb1 Dec-26-01 09:52 PM
In response to message 0
Tonyraye,

I just had a AMD Athlon 1900+ (1.6 gHz)in my micronpc with a Gigabyte GA-7DX motherboard. I took it out since the temperature was running away and there seemed to be signs of heat damage to the chip but it still functions ok. Temps got as high as 89ºC after running the machine for 4 hours. I had sent a letter to AMD asking about this but got no answer. So...I took it out in anticipation of using it in my new case which has a 350W power supply and spaces for 4 cooling fans. ECCHHH!!!! I wonder how much noise that will make. My new cooling fan is the Cooler Master DP5-6I11A which is larger in diameter than the one in the Micronpc.

Anyway, I went back to the 1.0 GHz Athlon and the temp is only at 69ºC after about 4 hours. Note that the side panel of the case is left off and the computer room has the window open a bit 59ºF. I wonder what will happen in summer when the temp here in North Carolina soars. I'll just have to move to the basement I guess.

I hope that gives you a baseline.

falconb1


8. RE: I was wanting to build my own computer, but I need lots of help and advice please
lbyard Dec-27-01 05:04 PM
In response to message 7
There is something very wrong with the CPU heatsink-fans you are using or their installation. 69 deg C is far too hot for a 1 GHz Athlon. See http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/cpu/socka/1.html and http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/mb/epox/8kha/1.htm. http://duxcw.com/faq/cpu/xpspec.htm may be of interest. Larry

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