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@HOME EXTERNAL MODEM NETWORKING
jafrico Feb-16-01 10:45 PM
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I HAVE 10/100 STRAIGHT CABLE,WIN98SE AND @HOME SOFTWARE INSTALLEDIN BOTH COMPUTERS. THERE WAS A ETHERNET/USB ADAPTER IN THE LINE BETWEEN @HOME EXTERNAL MODEM, AND THE MAIN COMPUTER USB PLUG-IN,IT HAS BEEN REMOVED, AND A 2 FT. 10/100 ETHERNET WIRE IS PLUGGED IN FROM THE @HOME EXT.MODEM TO THE NEW NETGEAR 4-PORT HUB, THEN FROM THE HUB TO THE MAIN COMPUTER IS A NEWLY INSTALLED NETGEARFA310TX FAST ETHERNET ADAPTER CARD.THERE IS ALSO ONE NEWLY INSTALLED UPSTAIRS ON COMPUTER NO#2,THE 25 FT ETHERNET WIRE COMING FROM THAT CARD TO THE HUB BELOW NEAR COMPUTER#1. I HAVE NO OTHER IRQS LEFT.THERE IS ONLY ONE RJ45 PLUG-IN ON COMPUTER1 AND #2(FROM NETGEAR CARD)AND THE HUB SEEMS TO BE THE ENTRY POINT OF CABLE MODEM THEN SPLITING TO COMPUTER ONE AND TWO.THE COMPUTERS WERE SHARING PRITERS BUT NOT INTERNET .I LOST THE INTERNET ON BOTH AND HAD @HOME TECH HELP GET IT BACK UP,I TOLD HER I WANTED HER TO HELP ME GET THE INTERNET UPSTAIRS AND SHE TRYED TO SELL ME ANOTHER I.P.ADDRESS .I NEED HELP TO MAKE THIS INTERNET SHARING POSSIBLE BETWEEN THESE TWO COMPUTERS.INSTRUCTION ON CONFIGURING EACH COMPUTER #1 MAIN AND UPSTAIRS#2 . ARE MY PLUGINS/CONNECTIONS ..I SURE DON'T FEEL LIKE AN A TECH RIGHT NOW! BUT NETWORKING WASN'T A BIG PART OF THE SKILL TRAINING.I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE INTERNET UPSTAIRS TO THE KIDS,THANKS JAY


1. Way to Share an Internet Connection
lbyard Feb-17-01 04:53 PM
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There are few ways to do it. One is to purchase another IP address from you provider as you mentioned. The best way is to purchase a broadband router such as the SMC Barricade (http://duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Network/smc/smc7004br/smc7004br.htm). That is what I use. They cost about $100.

The Barricade has serial port for an external dial-up MODEM and a printer port and printer server. A printer can be connected to the Barricade and shared by computers on the local network. Not all printers will work with it. Many routers do not accommodate an Internet connection via an external dial-up MODEM and do not have printer port and server.

The barricade would also replace your hub with a switch. Your hub can be plugged into the Barricade if you ever get more than four PCs.

There are also single port routers on the market, routers that do not include an Ethernet switch or hub (http://duxcw.com/faq/network/hubsw.htm). I will review one shortly.

Another way to do it is with a software solution. There are two flavors: a proxy server and a NAT (Network Address Translator). I have found that a NAT works best for a small network. Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) and Millennium (Me) include ICS (Internet Connection Sharing; http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/win98se/intro.htm and http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/win98se_cab/intro.htm). It works OK for basic browsing and E-Mail functions, but has problems with some network games and conferencing programs, etc. It requires two network adapters in the PC connected to the Internet, one to the MODEM and the other to another PC via a crossover cable (http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable1.htm) or to a hub with a straight-thru cable as you have now. You would have to buy another adapter and cable.

Of the software I have tested, I have found that SyGate (http://duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Network/sygate/sygate.htm) is the best NAT (it can also function as a proxy). The version of SyGate I reviewed requires two network adapters like Win 98 SE/Me ICS. The newest version is advertised to work with one network adapter in the host computer (the one running the NAT).

With a software solution you must have the host computer on for the other computer(s) (clients) to use the Internet. Most routers are small boxes running a specialized server that performs both NAT and firewall functions. With a router, only the router has to be on. The router is also easier to install, is generally faster, and has fewer problems. Larry


2. Excellent advice
jafrico Feb-17-01 05:37 PM
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lt was ridiculous ,when one of these computer"gurus"l had been talking to during this 50 hours of self-teaching network nightmare ,had concured with and came up the same solution you did.l wish l would have contacted you 1 month ago......l knew it was possible to by-pass @homes "buy address"solution.Thanks for telling me how,l thought a third card was going to be required, because there was a need to have an input and output for rj45 connectors into the main computer,then going to the hub, and then from the hub to upstairs computer #2 makes way better sense.Netgear ,when selling a "internet kit" should have a third card in box ,instead of only two. And there should be three or four examples of network topologys such as this networking site has.You know, all l had to know was that the upstairs comp.#2 would always have to have downstairs computer #1 on,in order for the net to work for it. That would not be good for us,so we have chosen the barricade router, because the kids upstairs can access the net anytime with my computer off downstairs, as long as the router is on.lt is also much easier to install and configure.The router can also be used when l expand my lan.The numbers are 5 bucks a mo.times 12=60bucks a year for 2nd i.p.from @home or 100 bucks for router to work my internet in several rooms at the same time anywhere and any isp l get in the future.The router wins!
Bet the cable companys would love to be able to control routing and charge people like they do for i.p. addresses.....Thankyou for your time,l am going to go buy the barricade router and Millineum is the choice for internet sharing when doing the three card /hub/network translator way
Thanks Again..Jafrico


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