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Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
TSE Feb-13-01 11:58 PM
I have just added a 3rd system running Win ME to a existing 2 system network, making it 3 total. There are 3 OSís , 95, 98, & now ME. The home network wizard from ME and the disk created to connect the other computers did not connect the 95 and ME systems. The 98 system shows domain connection to both ME and 95. but the domain on the ME and 95 systems only show the 98. Neither ME or 95 seem to be able to find each other, but they find the 98 okay. What am I missing?

1. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
lbyard Feb-14-01 09:58 PM
In response to message 0
Let them sit there for up to 45 minutes and sort out which of them is the browse master. Larry

2. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
TSE Feb-14-01 10:14 PM
In response to message 1
How do I tell which one is the browse master? Is it the 98 system since it sees the ME and the 95? john

3. How to Determine the Windows Network Browse Master
lbyard Feb-15-01 00:42 AM
In response to message 2
LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-01 AT 00:43 AM (GMT)

Microsoft has made that rather difficult. Be sure TCP/IP is installed, opern a DOS Window, and type:
C:\>nbtstat -a <computername>

For each computer on the network. That will produce something like the following:

Lana # 0:
Node IpAddress: <192.168.123.198> Scope Id: <>

NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
NT1 <20> UNIQUE Registered
NT1 <00> UNIQUE Registered
DUXHQ <00> GROUP Registered
DUXHQ <1C> GROUP Registered
DUXHQ <1B> UNIQUE Registered
NT1 <03> UNIQUE Registered
DUXHQ <1E> GROUP Registered
DUXHQ <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

MAC Address = 00-50-BA-B0-00-F9

The one with ..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered
Is the Browse Master; in this case, my NT file server. See the Windows REsource Kit (http://duxcw.com/faq/network/helpdoc.htm) for more info. Larry


4. RE: How to Determine the Windows Network Browse Master
TSE Feb-15-01 02:52 PM
In response to message 3
Thanks. I won't be able to check the this until Monday when I get access to the system again. Once I determine the browse master, what do I check/do next? john

5. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
lbyard Feb-15-01 03:53 PM
In response to message 0
Let them sit for 45 minutes and sort-out the Browse Master as I previous said. It might change and it might update the browse list. Also, make sure the 98 computer has all of the upgrades/patches from Microsoft (Help, Internet Help...). There is a problem with 98 talking to 95 computers that these patches supposedly fix. Larry

6. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
TSE Feb-20-01 09:33 PM
In response to message 5
Having run your suggestion, the following are the results:

Domain name Hornbeak

1. Win ME - 'Max'

C:\>nbtstat -a max

Lana # 0:
Node IpAddress: <169.254.46.71> Scope Id: <>

NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table

Name Type Status
--------------------------------------------
MAX <00> UNIQUE Registered
HORNBEAK <00> GROUP Registered
MAX <03> UNIQUE Registered
MAX <20> UNIQUE Registered
DEFAULT <03> UNIQUE Registered
HORNBEAK <1E> GROUP Registered
HORNBEAK <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

MAC Address = 00-20-18-D5-7B-61

2. Win 98 - 'Debbie'

C:\>nbtstat -a debbie

NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table

Name Type Status
--------------------------------------------
DEBBIE <00> UNIQUE Registered
HORNBEAK <00> GROUP Registered
DEBBIE <03> UNIQUE Registered
DEBBIE <20> UNIQUE Registered
HORNBEAK <1E> GROUP Registered
DEBORAH <03> UNIQUE Registered

MAC Address = 00-10-5A-A4-06-0F

3. Win 95 machine - 'LISA'

C:\>nbtstat -a lisa

Host not found

The Win 98 machine connects fine with both ME & 95, what's missing from the 95 machine? Thanks for your assistance. john


7. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
lbyard Feb-21-01 03:35 PM
In response to message 6
1. You must have at least one of the NetBIOS protocols installed. The NetBIOS protocols are: NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, and TCP/IP. If TCP/IP does not work by itself, go to Start, Setting, Control Panel, Network, select the instance of TCP/IP bound to the network adapter for your local network, Properties, Bindings and be sure the Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing check boxes are checked. They should not be checked for any network adapters used to connect to the Internet.
2. All of the computers must be running a common protocol.
3. You must login to Windows or the Microsoft Client for Windows.
4. A unique computer name must be specified in Network configuration
5. The workgroup name must be specified in Network configuration and should be the same as the other workstations.
6. File and Print Sharing must be installed to see yourself in Network Neighborhood
If File and Print Sharing is not listed in Network Configuration on other peers/workstations then you will not be able to view that machine in Network Neighborhood.
You may ahve uninstall and reinstall all network components on the Win 95 Computer. Share something on all of the computers. Larry

8. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
TSE Feb-22-01 05:26 PM
In response to message 7
I have gone down your list and checked/changed/re-installed and still no joy. The 98 system's Network Neighborhood continues to show all 3 systems, while the ME and 95 only show the 98 system.

Side Note: When I run the floppy setup disk created by ME on the 98 and 95 systems, in the "Share Printers" sections, both systems show a "rendering subsystems" line item with check box. The 98 system has printers also in this section, the 95 only the "rendering subsystem". I assume this is addressing previous networking setup of the 98 & 95 systems.

If I upgrade the 95 system to 98, do you think the problem would fix itself? Thanks again for you help. john


9. RE: Networking Windows ME, 98, & 95
lbyard Feb-22-01 05:52 PM
In response to message 8
I would uninstall and reinstall all network components without that floppy, which I have never used. See http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/net2pc/intro.htm for the manual procedure. Larry

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