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Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
toasty Dec-13-00 09:36 PM
At home I have a 2 computer network with a crossover cable going between them. Both of them run TCP/IP and IPX protocals on the ethernet cards. One of the computers has a modem that also runs TCP/IP and IPX. I configured the dial-up server and have succesfully had a friend connect to my computer (using only IPX). He can see local resources on my computer, but not on the network, and no multiplayer games work. It was my understanding that if we both use IPX protocal, then the dial-up server should act as a router, and all network resources should be visible to the
client. I have *no* idea why local resources on the host are visible, but any games hosted are not. IPX protocal is configured with all of the default settings. NetBIOS over IPX is not enabled.
Is this just some stupid glitch or am I doing something wrong? I would really appreciate any help anyone could give me.

1. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
lbyard Dec-13-00 10:08 PM
In response to message 0
Search this forum for games with a longer period then the default of one day (got to fix that). From the remote, try Start, Run, and enter \\computer_name of the other computer on your local network. You may have to wait for up to 15 minutes for it to appear. Thank Big Bill for that one... Larry

2. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
toasty Dec-14-00 10:58 PM
In response to message 1
I can see the other computer (and he can see me), running any combination of protocals, including only IPX. The problem is that he cant see network resources on the server, only local ones. The really wierd thing is although we can see eachother in windows, we can't see eachother in IPX games. Whats really weird is that programs (like Kali) that tunnel IPX over a an internet connection DO work with these games, so the problem can't be with the game.

Sort of semi-related question:

I have the Microsoft VPN adapter installed on my computer, is there any VPN-server for win98, like the server for the Dial-up adapter? In winNT RAS supported connections through the VPN adapter, but the win98 dial-up server allows only modem connections. I'm hoping there is some program that can do this (Microsoft or third-party) but haven't found one for win98. If anyone knows of such a program, could you please tell me where I could find it?


3. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
lbyard Dec-15-00 03:19 PM
In response to message 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUNetworking/VPN/Default.asp. There is also one for Win 95… FMI, see Microsoft Knowledge Base Article ID: Q191540, VPN Update for Windows 98 and Dial-Up Networking 1.3 Available, at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q191/5/40.asp. Larry

4. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
toasty Dec-20-00 01:03 AM
In response to message 3
Do the win95/98 VPN updates you refered me to allow win98 computers to *host* a VPN connection, or only connect to a windows NT/2000 machine?

Also, is there any free 3rd party (non-MS, or Novell for that matter) software that allows a renote computer to connect to my LAN, using IPX. All I need is a way for another computer, either through direct modem connection or internet, to connect to my IPX based LAN. Thanks.


5. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
lbyard Dec-20-00 09:14 PM
In response to message 4
Sorry, you are correct. I looked at the documentation again and the Win 98 VPN is a client that must connect to a server with the Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) (and a static IP on the Internet) or your ISP must support PPTP. You might want to look at Symantec’s PcAnywhere (http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?productID=2&pageID=343&PID=na, which I believe does VPN at both ends.

Back to the dial-up server problem… Excerpts from the Windows 98 Resource Kit Book Online (a valuable and extensive resource which you may want to review), which is on the Win 98 CD at D:\tools\reskit\help\rk98book.chm (where D: is your CD-ROM drive letter; simply double click rk98book.chm), Chapter 19, Remote Networking and Mobile Computing…

Configuring and Using the Windows 98 Dial-Up Server

“… After the connection is established, users can browse the resources on the dial-up server, subject to whatever level of security has been applied to them. Users can also log on to the network after connecting to the dial-up server if logging on to the network is enabled on the dial-up client.”

So, in the properties for Dial-up connection on the remote computer used to access the dial-up server, verify in the security tab that the Log on to network check box is checked.

Did that work? If not I’ll set-up a test system and figure-out how to do it. Larry


7. RE: Problems with Win98 Dial-Up server
toasty Dec-21-00 06:35 AM
In response to message 5
Yeah, looks like pcanywhere would do the trick. It's not free but I'm getting a little desperate. The thing that stil puzzles me is that after the remote client connects via modem to my win98 dial-up server (using only IPX), he can see local resources on my machine, but not other machines on the LAN, and various other network applications, mostly games, don't work. It was my understanding that although TCP/IP protocal w/ dial-up server only connects the client to the host machine, not the network, with IPX protocal the entire network should be visible to the client. I believe this problem is related to the games not working. Is there some setting I need to set in the IPX properties? There is something called "source routing," not sure what that does, and I haven't fussed with it too much.

As far as the dial-up settings go, "log on to network" is enabled, and the client *can* see local resources, just not network ones. Thanks for your continued assistance, hope we can get it working soon.


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