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TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-01-00 07:51 PM
I installed my network cards with netBEUI, and they transfer files great, see each other no problem. When I switch to TCP/IP, they don't see each other and consequently can't send files... I have also tried to install ICS, and no luck.

Host has setings of:
client for Microsoft Networks
Dial-up Adapter
Internet Connection Sharing
Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter(NC100 v2)
Internet Connection Sharing(protocol)>Dial-up Add.
Internet Connection Sharing(protocol)>ICS
Internet Connection Sharing(protocol)>Network Ev.
TCP/IP (Home)>Network Everywhere...
TCP/IP (Shared)>Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP > Internet Connection Sharing
File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks


The client has

Client for Microsoft Networks
D-Link DFE 530TX PCI Fast Eithernet adapter
TCP/IP
File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

both systems are win98se


1. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-01-00 10:21 PM
In response to message 0
TCP/IP is not bound to your network adapter. Install TCP/IP again and it should install an instance bound to the adapter. What is Network Everywhere? Remove it if you don't need it. You should be OK, but be aware that Windows allows a maximum of four adapters to which TCP/IP can be bound. You must have an IP address for the TCP/IP bound to your network adapters. They can be static, you assign them, or dynamic, a DHCP server like the one in ICS assigns (leases) them). Start, Run, winipcfg, select appropriate adapter will show the status of you adapter. Larry

2. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-01-00 11:29 PM
In response to message 1
Network Everywhere is my eithernet adapter. TCP/IP is bound to the adapter, I have tried static IP and letting windows do it.. from several online help files.. when I run winipcfg, the only adaptor available under the selector on either system is ICSHARE adapter.

the client does get an ip adress assigned to it of 192.168.0.2

but I can't ping either system.


under the network everyware adapter/properties/bindings it shows tcp/ip (Home)

Plus in the network configuration tab under installed components, TCP/IP (Home)->network everywhere adapter

shows that the TCP/IP is bound to the adaptor as far as I understand it.. (the little arrow)


3. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-02-00 02:32 PM
In response to message 2
Sorry, you are right; the configuration looks correct. I must have misread it yesterday… You should see your network adapters in winipcfg, but I do not have ICS installed presently to double-check it. In particular, I don’t see how the ICSHARE adapter got on the client (see http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/win98se/trouble.htm for an example of what the client should look like in winipcfg). If in fact it isn’t on the client, release and then renew the IP address lease with winipcfg. Did you somewhere along the way install ICS on both computers? It only gets installed on the computer with the Internet connection. I know it is a pain, but I would suggest uninstalling everything and starting over: ICS (with Install/Remove Programs) and all network components. Larry

4. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-02-00 05:14 PM
In response to message 3
ICS has never been installed on the client... looking back at my post, I guess you got that from my message about winipcfg, on the host all I see is ICS, and on the client, I see the clients adapter.. I can renew on the client and it gives me an IP of 192.168.0.2
same as it starts with.

Is it possible for a NIC to work with netBEUI and not TCP/IP? the NIC on the client is an older card... it is a hand me down, so I don't know how old it is. It is a 10/100 card.. both are.


5. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-02-00 06:59 PM
In response to message 4
I would think that if NetBEUI works, TCP/IP would work. An adapter that can do 100 Mhz isn't all that old. If you can release and renew, the adpater is talking to the DHCP server on the host. It seems like something is amiss on the host. Your subnet masks are 255.255.255.0 on both machines, right? Larry

6. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-02-00 07:31 PM
In response to message 5
yes, both subnet masks are 255.255.255.0, I also tried 255.255.0.0 at a friends request, but it is back to 255.255.255.0, and no luck

7. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-02-00 08:04 PM
In response to message 6
If it were my system, I would uninstall ICS, and test. If I could not ping then, I would completely uninstall and reinstall the host network components, followed by the client, if necessary. This often works. Larry

8. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-02-00 08:17 PM
In response to message 7
I've done that three times.. including formatting the HD... re-installing windows.. works with netBEUI, no TCP/IP.. I install ICS then to try again... just on the chance it fixes something... and still no luck.

10. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-02-00 09:42 PM
In response to message 8
Have you tried pinging without ICS installed? Let's get ICS out of the equation and make the problem as simple as possible.

I see now, from a search on Google that the Network Everywhere adapter belongs to Linksys… As a long shot, you may want to go into the properties for the Everywhere board, Advanced, and change the Transmit Threshold to Store and Forward. Another long shot … when you run winipcfg on either computer, do you get an adapter address (Ethernet MAC address) of FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF? If nothing else is wrong, NetBEUI may work with such a board; TCP/IP will not actually bind to it. Now, I am at the point where I would sub another network board and the first one I would pull would be the Everywhere board. I have networked many machines with the 530TX and I can't tell from the info on the Internet what flavor (Ethernet chip) of Linksys LNE100TX board the Network Everywhere adapter is. I have a next oldest to the most recent LNE100TX in my computer and it can ping a 530TX. The most recent version of the Network Everywhere inf file is dated 7/15/99. Larry


9. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
Brian N. Oct-02-00 09:07 PM
In response to message 7
I just got in touch with a friend of mine who has ICS running, he says I should be able to see all the adapters in winipcfg... I wonder if my problem is there..

11. RE: TCP/IP and Ping
lbyard Oct-02-00 09:43 PM
In response to message 9
That was my opinion a couple of messages ago. Larry

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