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What am I Overlooking?
oldmantook Sep-30-00 11:46 PM
I have 3 computers hooked up via 3Com Home Phoneline adapters in a Client/Server network using Sygate software (ver 3.11).

Computer A (Sygate Server Mode) is a Win98SE and has two NICs: one connects to a cable modem and the other connects to Computer B's NIC (w/2 RJ-11 jacks).

Computer B (Sygate Client Mode) is Win98SE and has one NIC (w/2 RJ-11 jacks), connected directly from Computer A's NIC, and the other to a RJ-11 wall jack.

Computer C (Sygate Client Mode) is Win98SE and has one NIC, with a phoneline connected to a RJ-11wall jack..

Computer A can recognize A, B & C in the Network Neighborhood, and can recognize A , B, & C in the Sygate Manager. A can browse and share files, etc. with B & C.

Computer B can recognize A, B & C in the Network Neighborhood, but can only recognize Computer A & B in the Sygate Manager. B can only browse and share files with A.

Computer C can recognize A, B & C in the Network Neighborhood, but can only recognize Computer A & C in the Sygate Manager. C can only browse and share files with A.

All three can connect to the Internet with equal speed (greater than 1.5 Mbps).

The Sygate Manager has its "Enable Built-in DHCP Server" box unchecked. It is able "see" A, B, & C. I have tried out a demo of Sygate 4.0, but it did not solve my problem. Features that were helpful in 3.11 were left off of 4.0 (clients can't view the Sygate Manager, which is very helpful) The tray icon kept blinking on and off, which was annoying (I'm sure it was trying to tell me that something was wrong...but I already knew that). I've noticed in several other forums that a lot of folks think Sybergen rushed 4.0 to market too soon. Who knows.

A, B & C all have the same Workgroup Name (in CAPS). Each of them have unique computer names and descriptions.

HERE IS MY QUESTION:

What do I have to do to get B & C to browse and share files, printers, etc.with each other?

Computer A has the following in the Network panel:

Client for Microsoft Network
3Com HomeConnect C3450 Ethernet Adapter
3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI Phoneline Adapter
NetBEUI->3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI PhonelineAdapter
TCP/IP ->3Com HomeConnect C3450 Ethernet Adapter
TCP/IP ->3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI PhonelineAdapter
File and printer sharing for Microsoft Neworks

TCP/IP->3Com HomeConnect C3450 Ethernet Adapter with these settings:
Gateway: Nothing
WINS: Use DHCP for WINS Resolution
IP address: Automatic
DNS: Disable
NetBIOS: Nothing
Advanced: "Allow binding to ATM "-> value: No
"Set this protocol to be default" (checked)
Bindings: Client for Microsoft Network (checked)
File and Printer sharing (unchecked)

TCP/IP -> 3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI Phoneline Adapter with these setting:
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
WINS: Disable
IP address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
DNS: Disable
NetBIOS: Nothing
Advanced: "Allow binding to ATM "-> value: No
"Set this protocol to be default"unchecked)
Bindings: Client for Microsoft Network (checked)
File and Printer sharing (checked)


Computers B & C have the same following Network panels:

Client for Microsoft Network
3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI Phoneline Adapter
NetBEUI
TCP/IP
File and printer sharing for Microsoft Neworks

TCP/IP -> 3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI Phoneline Adapter with these setting:
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
WINS: Disable
IP address: 192.168.0.2 (C= 192.168.0.3)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 (both)
DNS:Enable (HOST=SERVER,Search Order=192.168.0.1)
NetBIOS: Nothing
Advanced: "Allow binding to ATM "-> value: No
"Set this protocol to be default" (unchecked)
Bindings: Client for Microsoft Network (checked)
File and Printer sharing (checked)


2. RE: What am I Overlooking?
lbyard Oct-01-00 04:00 PM
In response to message 0
It doesn’t look like you missed anything and it is a weird problem... Thank you for the detailed input... Do you have any splitters in the phone system? On the wall or attached to adapters? Try selecting a computer on which you cannot see the shares and clicking View, Refresh. The share names cannot end with a $. I didn't think it would be that easy... Try swapping the computers around; there could be a marginal wiring problem. Finally, starting with one of the clients completely uninstall and reinstall SyGate and ALL networking components. This will often fix otherwise unexplainable networking problems. Larry

3. RE: What am I Overlooking?
technut Oct-05-00 07:12 PM
In response to message 0
well my friend I have been there before though not with the rj11 set up
"Set this protocol to be default" (checked)
worked for me. but I do not know why for sure.
Also one odd thing why?
NetBEUI->3Com HomeConnect 10M PCI PhonelineAdapter
are you using NetBeui for anything??
it seems you sould need only tcp/ip


4. RE: What am I Overlooking?
oldmantook Oct-07-00 07:55 PM
In response to message 3
Success at long last! The configuration wasn't the problem. I moved the NIC on one Client to a different PCI slot (#2 instead of #1). Another revelation was that both of my wall RJ-11 jacks were "active" (I previously had two separate phone lines, but disconnected one later). I just assumed that the wall jack for the disconnected phone was "dead". But when I checked it, (serendipitously) it was active!! So I plugged my Server's Phoneline into one of the wall jacks, and a Client's Phoneline into the other and a second Client (in a different room) remained plugged into it's wall jack. BOOM!! It all came together and the network became more responsive than ever (e.g. previously, I had connected a Client's Phoneline into the other RJ-11 on the Server's NIC so they were both sharing the same wall jack).

I haven't removed NetBEUI because I thought it was a necessary protocol in the stack. When I gather the courage, I'll remove it and see what happens. Also, I installed Sygate 4.0 on the Server only. The new version doesn't provide much info for the Clients, and it wasn't required.

Anyway, a big Thank You to Larry & Technut for sending replies. To the other 70 readers who didn't have any suggestions for me, I hope this reinforces the importance of the fundamentals, and if you're sure you have the software configuration perfect, look at the hardware.

Larry, thanks again for this great forum!


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