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Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-17-00 05:22 AM
Hi there!
Computer 1 can't find computer 2 on the network?
Both computers are in the same work group and both can ping each other.

When I go into network neiborhood on comp 2 I only see entire network icon, and when I click that I get the "message unable to browse network" but when I do a find computer for comp 2 I find it ok, when I do a find from comp 1 I can't find it.

In network neibohood on comp 1 I see the icon for comp 1, I also ave a shortcut that I used to use instead of having to go into NN and that don't work now, I just get the message Comp2 is not accessible.

Thanks


2. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-19-00 04:18 PM
In response to message
Thanks for the reply larry, I have installed NetBEUI on both computers now but still have the same problem?
Thanks again!

3. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
dongta77 Sep-19-00 06:21 PM
In response to message 2
- did you enable file and printer sharing??
- I think I had this problem before, I was using Linksys NIC on both computer and a hub. 80% of the time that both comp can not see each other, but they can ping each other. I checked the Linksys website and see the requirement for their NIC, turn out I have a slow computer, so I changed the Linksys NIC to SMC NIC, they work fine. Hope this's help.

4. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
lbyard Sep-19-00 06:24 PM
In response to message 2
You have to log into to use the workgroup functions. See our networking FAQs (http://duxcw.com/faq/network/network.htm):

When I turn on my computer, I don't get the password box to log me onto the network. How do I fix this problem?

If the network adapter is in PCI slot move it; it may be having a resource conflict with the AGP board.

Policy Editor has been used to create an alternate workgroup change it to all caps. See Microsoft Knowledge Base Article Q190648 at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q190/6/48.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0

If this doesn't help fix it, please send me lots of details. Larry


5. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
robert03 Sep-22-00 02:44 AM
In response to message 4
if u are using tcp/ip then check if both the computers are on teh same subnet.

6. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-25-00 08:09 AM
In response to message 4
Hi thanks for the help so far.
I have located the problem but not sure how I can get round it.

I have my computer set up for ICS using WinRoute and this works great for ICS as it also allows ICQ and yahoo (java) chat to work on all client computers with ease but this is also a problem for sharing files over the network. On the host I have to specify a static IP address eg. 192.168.1.100 so the client computers know which computer to access the net through, when this is set as static ICS works fine, but without this set like this it wont work.

The client computers dont have static IP's they have them assigned automatically, when I set the host to obtain IP automatically I can share files from client to host and host to client no problem. I don't know what I can do in this situation, I don't seem to know enough about the software to get round this problem, hopfully you might Thanks again.


7. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
lbyard Sep-25-00 01:47 PM
In response to message 6
It's been a while since I played with WinRoute. Try setting the host to 198.162.0.1. If that doesn't fix it, run winipcfg (Start, Run, enter winipcfg) on one of the clients, select the network adapter, and send me the IP address being assinged to it by WinGate's DHCP server. Larry

8. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-25-00 11:19 PM
In response to message 7
This is what is from winipcfg on the host computer larry.

Host Name: T1
DNS Servers: 212.49.224.2
Node Type: Broadcast
----------------------------
Adapter Address: 00-80-5f-D7-B4-57
IP Address: 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

Client computer
Host Name: T2
DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
Node Type: Broadcast
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS (ticked)
-----------------------------
Adapter Address: 00-60-97-CA-71-2E
IP Autoconfiguration Address: 169.254.103.195
Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
DHCP Server: 255.255.255.255

Hope this halps, Thank you


9. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
lbyard Sep-26-00 03:35 AM
In response to message 8
This is a mess... How is the computer running WinRoute connecting to the Internet? Larry

10. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-26-00 11:12 PM
In response to message 9
:-) A mess! your right.

The host computer is connecting to through a 56k modem


11. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
lbyard Sep-27-00 04:21 AM
In response to message 10
Without a router in between, a client with an IP 169.254.103.195 and a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 is never going to talk to a host with an IP of 192.168.1.100 and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. They are not on the same network. In this situation, both machines should have IPs starting with 192.168.1.xxx and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. 192.168.0.xxx is more common, but the first example will work. The xxx’s should be different for each machine. The TCP/IP configuration for your MODEM connection is done in the dial-up adapter, not in the TCP/IP protocol in the Control Panel, Network. In the Control Panel, Network, TCP/IP Protocol, set the static IP address for the host as 192.168.0.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Set the clients to auto, obtain the IP address form the host’s DHCP server. Run winipcfg on the client and click release, than click renew, and wait see if a new IP is assigned. That should cause it to lease an IP address which is on the same network as the host: 192.168.0.xxx. If not, the DHCP server is mucked-up. Larry

12. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
robert03 Sep-29-00 02:20 AM
In response to message 10
im using win route ,but i have a simple configuration ,see if this helps .
The computer on which i have installed winroute has the following configuration:

LOCAL NIC IP :200.100.100.3
SUBNET :255.255.255.0
GATEWAY:NONE

MODEM IP: SET TO AUTOMATICALLY OBTAIN FROM ISP
SUBNET : OBTAIN FROM ISP

The computer on the net work has the following configuration:
LOCAL NIC IP:200.100.100.2
SUBNET:255.255.255.0
GATEWAY:200.100.100.3

this works fine with me try it and then go into the advance configuration.


13. RE: Can't Find Computer on Network
Tezdread Sep-29-00 11:29 PM
In response to message 12
Hi there!

Thanks to every one for your input, the problem is now sorted I tried all the sugestions but in the end I had to remove all the network components from both computers and start again from the beginning. I have them both setup similar to the settings above, and this works fine, I did have a problem connecting ICQ from the client machine until I included the gateway No. on the client, but that solved the last of the problems. One other thing I included was the DNS settings on client, I put the host computer name and its IP address. WINS Config is disabled on both comps and NetBUI is setup on both machines.

In WinRoute, DHCP server is enabled and left on the default settings, and apart from the security settings every thing is left on default, at least until I can get more understanding on all the functions.

Thanks again!

I hope when I included a new comuter on the network it will be a simple proccess

Tezdread


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