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sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-19-02 01:56 AM
Hello, I am having allot of trouble trying to get my two computers to share the same internet connection. first of all, both computers are running win98se. I have my desktop computer connecting to the internet via dial-up. I have a laptop that I want to share this connection with. both the desktop and laptop have a NIC. they are connected to each other via crossover cable. I have no problems sharing files and printers between the two. I just can't seem to get the laptop to see the desktop's internet connection. I tried to ping my desktop from the laptop and no success. just times out. I thought I followed the tutorial on this site. and everything looks to be in order. any ideas on what is wrong?

1. RE: sharing an internet connection
lbyard Apr-19-02 09:53 AM
In response to message 0
On the laptop try Start, Run, enter winipcfg, select the network adapter going to the desktop, and release and renew the IP address lease. If that does not work, please post the network configurations on both computers. Larry

2. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-19-02 11:27 PM
In response to message 1
When I try to renew on the laptop it freezes for a while then pops up an error saying, <DHCP Server Unavailable: Renewing adapter "">. I don't know a whole lot about networking so I have no idea what that means. So this didn't work and I manually went in and assigned an Ip address of 192.168.0.2 and subnet is 255.255.255.0. ANd still nothing. I cannot ping either computer. Since I am new to this, what exactly do you want me to post, there seems like allot of information. Thanks, Gilly

3. RE: sharing an internet connection
lbyard Apr-20-02 00:54 AM
In response to message 2
Please send the info in Start, Settings, Control Panel, Network, Configuration, The following components are installed... for the ICS host computer for now. Larry

4. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 01:17 AM
In response to message 3
Well...there are allot of things installed, and I should note the once i took netbeui off, I could no longer see the other computers on the network to do file sharing.

for host computer the following are installed:
Client for microsoft networks
microsoft family logon
D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
Dial-Up Adapter
internet Connection Sharing
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->Dial-Up Adapter
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->internet Connection Sharing
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->Dial-Up Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->internet Connection Sharing
NetBEUI->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
NetBEUI->Dial-Up Adapter
NetBEUI->internet Connection Sharing
TCP/IP(Home)->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
TCP/IP(Shared)->Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP->internet Connection Sharing
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

for client(laptop) the following are installed:
Client for microsoft networks
microsoft family logon
3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
Fast Infared Protocol->SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
NDISWAN->Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
NetBEUI->3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
TCP/IP->3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

That is everything in on both computers, I hope this helps. believe it or not, I have been trying to get this to work for over a month now. nothing seems to work. thanks for the help, Gilley


5. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 10:24 AM
In response to message 4
I included this part again, but the new stuff is at the bottom:

for host computer the following are installed:
Client for microsoft networks
microsoft family logon
D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
Dial-Up Adapter
internet Connection Sharing
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->Dial-Up Adapter
internet Connection Sharing(protocol)->internet Connection Sharing
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->Dial-Up Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->internet Connection Sharing
NetBEUI->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
NetBEUI->Dial-Up Adapter
NetBEUI->internet Connection Sharing
TCP/IP(Home)->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
TCP/IP(Shared)->Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP->internet Connection Sharing
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

for client(laptop) the following are installed:
Client for microsoft networks
microsoft family logon
3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
Fast Infared Protocol->SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
NDISWAN->Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
NetBEUI->3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
TCP/IP->3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

I am just adding more information to go along with the components installed above.

HOST COMPUTER:
settings when I click on TCP/IP(Home)->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
ip address: obtain an ip automatically
WINS Config: Use DHCP for WINS Resolution
Gateway: nothing here
DNS Configuration: Disable DNS
NetBIOS: box is checked and grayed out
Advanced: Property Allow Binding to ATM and walue is Yes
Bindings: Client for MS networks, file/print sharing, MS family logon

HOST COMPUTER:
settings when I click on TCP/IP(Shared)->Dial-Up Adapter
ip address: obtain an ip automatically
WINS Config: Use DHCP for WINS Resolution
Gateway: 0.0.255.255
DNS Configuration: Disable DNS
NetBIOS: box is checked and grayed out
Advanced: Property Allow Binding to ATM and walue is Yes
Bindings: Client for MS networks, MS family logon

HOST COMPUTER:
settings when I click on TCP/IP->internet Connection Sharing
ip address: obtain an ip automatically
WINS Config: Use DHCP for WINS Resolution
Gateway: 0.0.255.255
DNS Configuration: Disable DNS
NetBIOS: box is checked and grayed out
Advanced: Property Allow Binding to ATM and walue is Yes
Bindings: Client for MS networks, file/print sharing, MS family logon

HOST COMPUTER'S WINIPCFG:
For the D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
node type: Broadcast
DNS Servers: 198.110.19.8
IP Routing Enabled: Checked
NetBIOS Scope Id: nothing
WINS Proxy Enabled: Not Checked
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: Not Checked
IP Autoconfiguration Address: 169.254.137.41
Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
Default gateway: none
DHCP Server: 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server: nothing
Secondary WINS Server: nothing

HOST COMPUTER'S WINIPCFG:
For the PPP adapter everything seems to change all the time.

CLIENT COMPUTER:
settings when I click on TCP/IP->3Com megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Etrhernet)
ip address: 169.254.137.42 (I've tried all kinds of things here)
WINS Config: Diable WINS Resolution (Use DHCP is greyed out)
Gateway: 169.254.137.41 (I've tried all kinds of things here)
DNS Configuration: Disable DNS
NetBIOS: box is checked and grayed out
Advanced: Property Allow Binding to ATM and walue is No
Bindings: Client for MS networks, file/print sharing, MS family logon

CLIENT COMPUTER'S WINIPCFG:
For the FE575 Ethernet Adapter
node type: Broadcast
DNS Servers: nothing
IP Routing Enabled: Not Checked
NetBIOS Scope Id: nothing
WINS Proxy Enabled: Not Checked
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: Not Checked
IP Address: 169.254.137.42 (i chose this because of the address the host computer had)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
Default gateway: 169.254.137.41
DHCP Server: nothing
Primary WINS Server: nothing
Secondary WINS Server: nothing


I used some highlighting to make it easier to read. I have tried all sorts of combinations on the IP's, but those are the current configurations, I am new to networking so I am not sure what most of this means and what they are supposed to be. Thanks, Gilley


7. RE: sharing an internet connection
lbyard Apr-20-02 12:18 PM
In response to message 5
Very useful info…
Please remove these on the Host
microsoft family logon (unless you have more than one user using the PC)
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->D-Link DFE-530TX+PCI Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->Dial-Up Adapter
IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol->internet Connection Sharing

Please remove these on the Client
microsoft family logon (unless you have more than one user using the laptop)
NDISWAN->Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter (unless you are using a virtual private network at work, etc. I would temporarily remove it anyway.)

I don’t understand why these are installed on the Client
SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
Fast Infared Protocol->SMC IrCC (Infared Communications Controller)
Do you have an IR mouse, keyboard, etc?

These actions probably won’t solve the problems, but they may.

ICS isn’t working on the host. If it were ICS would have configured a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 on the instance of TCP/IP bound to the 530TX. Suggest uninstalling ICS using Start, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Communications… and then reinstalling it. Things may still be messed-up on the host and you may have to remove everything network and start over. You do not have any firewalls installed, do you? Larry


8. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 03:42 PM
In response to message 7
Well...when I remove the IPX/SPX protocols then I can log on to the internet, but nothing works. messenger, email, IE, all can't find server. So I reinstalled them and now I can get back online(just host). I have an infared port on the laptop. And I have zonealarm on both computers. i sut them down but still nothing. when you say this: uninstalling ICS using Start, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Communications…, what do I uninstall? I thought ICS was in the Internet Tools section. ANd if I uninstall that dial-up will it erase my dial-up settings that I created to get online? Thanks, Gilley

9. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 07:07 PM
In response to message 7
I had to go in and manually set Ip addresses, host to 192.168.0.1 and client to 192.168.0.2. On both machines I can ping 127.0.0.1 and have success. On the host I can ping the client with success. but the Client can't ping the host. just times out. also now when I open IE from the client, it does not ask to work offline which it always does when there is no internet connection. so i might be close. any ideas? Thanks, Gilley

10. RE: sharing an internet connection
DJ Net2Infinity Apr-20-02 07:37 PM
In response to message 9
I would uninstall zonealarm and try that and if that didnt work I would try installing ICS again.

11. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 10:17 PM
In response to message 10
LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-02 AT 10:20 PM (EST)
 
Thanks Brian, I am now able to ping both computers both ways. But I am afraid I still have a problem IE, Netscape, Email still does not work from client. I have to be close if I can ping, right? I made sure nothing is checked in the IE LAN settings. So what else might be stopping IE from accessing the internet on the laptop? I can also ping the Ip address of the modem connected to the internet from the client laptop, if i can ping the ip connected to the internet why then can't IE or anything but ping see it? Thanks, Gilley

12. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-20-02 11:33 PM
In response to message 10
I should also add to this message that on the host machine when I go to winipcfg, the ppp adapter is no longer there, but an ICSHare Adapter is. This adapter is working for the host to go online, but the client still can't get online, but I can ping the ICSHARE adapter's IP from the client. This is very confusing.

Thanks Brian, I am now able to ping both computers both ways. But I am afraid I still have a problem IE, Netscape, Email still does not work from client. I have to be close if I can ping, right? I made sure nothing is checked in the IE LAN settings. So what else might be stopping IE from accessing the internet on the laptop? I can also ping the Ip address of the modem connected to the internet from the client laptop, if i can ping the ip connected to the internet why then can't IE or anything but ping see it? Thanks, Gilley


13. RE: sharing an internet connection
gilleyc Apr-21-02 07:40 PM
In response to message 12
Thanks everyone. I now have everything working Biggest problem was ZoneAlarm. It will not allow ICS to communucate anywhere, I try to check the box to allow access but it never stays checked. So anyone trying to doe this should at least sut down zonealarm, but uninstalling is better. Also I had to on the client enable DNS on the DNS configuration tab and add my hosts name and Ip. And under advanced tab I had to on both machines make sure that set this protocol to be the default was checked. Thanks, Gilley

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