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Another Win 98 Win 2000 Pro Networking Question
jbredijk Jan-25-02 00:19 AM
I've got a new job (finally!) and one of my first problems is getting a Win 98 laptop (mine) to work on a Win 2000 Pro network.

They are using a 'Workgroup' and DHCP (there is no 'server' per se, so I'm guessing that the DHCP is being provided by the switch). The network is a group of kiosks that are running Win 2000 Pro that share 2 printers.

I've tried to match my network settings to those that I've found on some of the 2000 boxes, but I can't see the rest of the network. I'm sure that I'm missing something stupid, but I can't find it.

Also, they have another Win 2000 Pro workgroup (with a different workgroup name) using DHCP which does have a server (running Win 2000 Server) and uses a hub rather then the switch. How can I get these two workgroups to see each other??

Thanx,
James


1. RE: Another Win 98 Win 2000 Pro Networking Question
lbyard Jan-25-02 04:56 PM
In response to message 0
>(there is no 'server' per se, so I'm guessing that the DHCP is being provided by the switch)

Switches normally do not have a DHCP server. Broadband outers normally do (http://duxcw.com/faq/ics/diffrout.htm). Windows 2000 Pro running Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) has a DHCP server.

Go to Start, Settings, Control Panel, Network, and right-click the instance of TCP/IP bound to the network adapter going to the local network, Properties, IP Address and set it to obtain the IP automatically. Disable DNS. Then Start, run, enter winipcfg, select the adapter, and Release and Renew the IP. You should see it change. Other things to check are at http://duxcw.com/faq/network/brreq.htm and http://duxcw.com/faq/network/names.htm. They may have to setup an account on for you the Windows 2000 Pro computer.

>Also, they have another Win 2000 Pro workgroup (with a different workgroup name) using DHCP, which does have a server (running Win 2000 Server) and uses a hub rather then the switch. How can I get these two workgroups to see each other??

You canít. http://duxcw.com/faq/network/netsel.htm might be helpful. It cn also be done with Profiles. Larry


2. RE: Another Win 98 Win 2000 Pro Networking Question
jbredijk Jan-28-02 11:47 PM
In response to message 1
Thanks for your advice. I was doing everything that I needed to except ...

The network diagrams were wrong. The kiosks were using the hub (not the switch) and got their DHCP info from a D-link network modem (obvious now that you informed me that a switch doesn't usually have a DHCP server). The other PC's were networked thru the switch. When I used the correct workgroup names on the correct network then everything was fine. Accurate documentation is important!

I would like to be able to see both networks from my laptop. Would the following work?
* Connect the hub and the switch (they are currently isolated from each other).
* Make both workgroup names the same.
* Change things over to static IP addresses, such as 192.168.1.xxx for one network and 192.168.2.xxx for the other.
What subnet mask would I need to use to be able to see both 'networks' from my laptop, but make them not see each other?


Thanks again for your help,
James


3. RE: Another Win 98 Win 2000 Pro Networking Question
lbyard Jan-29-02 00:41 AM
In response to message 2
If you connect the hub to the router, the PCs on the hub can also get their IP addresses automatically from the router. Then if you just have one workgroup name for all of the PCs on both the router and hub, your problem will be solved. Simple, huh? Cheap, right? Tip jar is to the left.

What subnet mask would I need to use to be able to see both 'networks' from my laptop, but make them not see each other?

No can do. Use Win 2K Pro groups.

Larry


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