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Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-13-01 04:45 PM
I have four computers on this network. Two Win XP and Two Win 98SE.

The XPs network fine with each other. However, when I try to go from an XP computer into an 98SE computer and I get the prompt for password - it doesn't work. (It says the name of the 98SE computer under user name and then guest - so for example - if the name was Dell, it says Dell\Guest) and I cannot change this as it is dimmed.

Any suggestions? Thanks

Jonathan


1. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-13-01 10:14 PM
In response to message 0
Are you going for an XP to 98 SE of the other way around? Larry

2. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-13-01 10:35 PM
In response to message 1
I am on the XP, trying to get access to the 98SE

4. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-13-01 11:16 PM
In response to message 2
This might still resolve the issue: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q258/9/38.ASP. Larry

5. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-14-01 01:32 PM
In response to message 4
Larry,

I will check this out but as I read it - this document is for those on Win 98 machines to access XP or 2000. I am on the XP machine, and am trying to get access into the 98 machine!


6. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-14-01 03:16 PM
In response to message 5
The real problem is that because Win 98 is not a networking sofware ... you cannot create accounts (can you?) ... so therefore there is no "guest" account. As my XP default is trying to log onto the Win 98 SE as a guest ... it obviously doesn't work. And I cannot change the logon name either!


7. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-14-01 03:17 PM
In response to message 6
Is there a way to make one list of people who can access these computers and all the computers on the network access this list rather than recreating it on every computer? How is this done?

8. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-14-01 09:11 PM
In response to message 6
The real problem might be solved if you will follow my suggestion (link) in my last post. The XP computer connot establish a link without the guest account or some fancier security configuration. The link is two-way. If that doen't do it' I'll setup the problem here and solve it. Incidently I am solving multple XP networking problems on three new XP computers I am putting together this week. I am trying to find the time to write-up everything. Larry

9. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-14-01 09:21 PM
In response to message 8
Win 98SE does not have Local Users and Groups nor does it have a Manage under My Computer. Like I said .. these instructions are for XP and my XP's guest account is active.

10. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-14-01 09:24 PM
In response to message 9
I have temporarily solved the problem. I removed the password from the Sharing dialog box and left it blank. This is not a good solution because I feel the password should remain. So I am still looking for help on this.

11. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-14-01 09:55 PM
In response to message 10
OK, I've got some XPs in various stages of assembly (all kinds of problems… as usual when Microsoft changes things and makes them more difficult and complicated for everyone except idiots) and they will be/are being networked. I'll work on it and get back to you. I will probably post the solution as a new thread. Larry

12. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-15-01 09:58 PM
In response to message 10
You had passwords assigned to the shared drives/folders on the 98SE computers? Larry

13. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-15-01 10:01 PM
In response to message 12
Yes - but I have now removed them. Not so secure is it?

14. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-15-01 10:40 PM
In response to message 13
Then I don't understand the problem. If you assign a password, it is going to prompt for the password. Larry

15. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-16-01 01:38 PM
In response to message 14
Yes it does - but for whatever reason, it doesn't accept the password even though it is correct. I am presuming it is because Win XP, by default uses the user name Guest (and does not allow you to change it), and I guess Win 98SE does not recognize that user name.

When I used to logon from Win 2000, I had the choice of what user name to use. I would leave the user name blank, and enter the password and it worked that way.


16. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
lbyard Nov-16-01 06:44 PM
In response to message 15
OK, I tried it on my system. My computer is running Windows Me and has a computer name we’ll say is LBYARDPC. I assigned read-only and full access passwords to C:. When I accessed it from a Windows XP Pro computer on my workbench, set-up for workgroup networking, with the Windows Explorer it prompted for a password like so:
User name: LBYARDPC\guest
Password:
The password worked and I was able to access the drive.
I did the same thing on THE Wife’s Windows 98 computer and it behaved exactly the same way when accessed from Windows XP.

When I accessed her C: drive from my Windows Me computer it displayed
Resource: \\CBYARDPC\C
Password:
And it worked when I entered the password.

Is that what you are attempting? I’d try again.

>Is there a way to make one list of people who can access these computers and all the computers on the network access this list rather than recreating it on every computer?

You would need the Server version of Windows NT, 2000, 2002 or other software that provides domain controller functions to do this. On a workstation you would use Settings, Control Panel, Network, Access Control, select User level access control and obtain the list from the domain controller. Security of shared resources can then be controlled from the central list of groups and uses on the domain controller and is similar to the refinement that the resources on an XP Pro computer can be controlled with its list, except there is one list that for all of the computers that are configured this way.
Larry


17. RE: Win XP & Win 98SE
jonsamson Nov-16-01 06:46 PM
In response to message 16
Larry,

What you did is exactly what I was attempting ... strange that it doesn't work here. There must be something that is checked or unchecked somewhere that is causing my headache here. I will investigate further next week. Sorry for this run around ...


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