DUX COMPUTER DIGEST

 

Site Search

Site Info

Home » Forums » Forum Archives » Networking and Internet Sharing » Topic # 1029

can not see the other computer on same network
nutvoot Jul-07-01 06:29 PM
can anyone tell me what really happen

sometimes between two computers
i can ping the other computer but
can not browse through Network
Neighborhood


1. RE: can not see the other computer on same network
lbyard Jul-07-01 07:24 PM
In response to message 0
Not without more information. Larry

2. RE: can not see the other computer on same network
nutvoot Jul-08-01 04:47 PM
In response to message 1
well two computers using WinMe connect through hub. most of the time it's works fine. sometimes i turn computers on but i can't browse through NetworkNeighborhood ( i didn't change any configulation at all)

1st computer assign ip to 192.163.0.1
2nd assign ip to 192.163.0.5

ping from 1st computer successful
ping from 2nd computer successful too

i have Microsoft Network Client
IPX, TCP/IP and files, printers sharing protocal . I think i have made it all requirement for sharing file.

only sometimes it's won't work though.


3. RE: can not see the other computer on same network
lbyard Jul-09-01 06:56 PM
In response to message 2
Try installing the NetBEUI protocol. If you have one computer on all of the time and it is the one you turn on first you may want to make it the Browse Master and turn-off the function on the other computer. Larry
Q. How does one change the Windows network Browse Master Settings on a Windows 9x/Me computer?
A. The settings for Windows 9x/Me is found at Start, Settings, Control Panel, Network, select File and Printer sharing...(not the button), Properties, Advanced, Browse Master. The available settings are Automatic, Enabled, and Disabled. The default setting is "Automatic."
Q. What is the Windows network Browse Service and what is a Browse Master?
A. The Microsoft networking browser system consists of a master browser, backup browsers, and client computers. The Windows browse service maintains a list, called the browse list, of computers with resources (servers--a client computer can also be a server in a peer-to-peer network) in a workgroup. One computer, the Browse Master, maintains the browse list. Users browse a network (browse list) to find, identify, and connect to network resources. Network resources are found by scrolling through a list of workgroups in the Network Neighborhood/My Network Places (workgroups are listed under the entire Network in Windows Me), a list of computers in a workgroup, and a list of shared resources on a computer. A computer can belong to only one workgroup and can only use resources in that workgroup. If a computer belongs to a Windows domain, both the domain and workgroup names must be identical. When a computer first starts Windows, it hunts for a Browse Master. An election is conducted if no Browse Master is found. An election is also conducted when a Master Browser disappears from the network (e.g., someone turns it off) or a Windows NT or 2000 Server starts. If the Browse Master function is enabled and one Windows NT or 2000 Sever that is the Primary Domain Controller is present, it becomes the Browse Master. If no domain controllers are present than the Master Browser is selected in the following priority order : Windows 2000 Server, Windows 2000 Professional, Windows NT 4.0 Server Enterprise Edition, Windows NT 4.0 Server, Windows NT 4.0 Workstation, Windows 98/SE/Me, Windows 95, Windows for Workgroups 3.11. There is one Browse Master per network segment (a group of computers connected to an Ethernet hub are in the same network segment). A Browse Master will appoint computers with the Browse Master function enabled or set to automatic as a backup browse server for every 32 computers on a network segment. Secondary domain controllers on the same network segment with a primary domain controller become backup Browse Masters. The Browse Master a copy of the browse list to the backup browse servers every fifteen minutes . A client computer announces itself to the network based what server services it is running. A Windows computer will not appear in a browse list if it is not running File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks. It may take up to 15 minutes for a computer to be added to the browse list. It may take up to 51 minutes (this number varies with different MS references and the process is complex) for a computer to be removed from a browse list after it has stopped announcing its presence.
To browse across TCP/IP subnetworks at least one Windows NT or 2000 Server Browse Master must be on each subnetwork. Microsoft networks using the IPX/SPX-compatible protocol (NWLink), have only one master browser for each domain and name queries are sent across routers in such a network automatically. For more Info see the Windows 98/98SE Resource Kit; Browsing and Windows 95 Networking (Parts 1-3); MS KB Article Q238853, Cannot Browse Network Neighborhood if PDC Is on Separate Subnet; and MS KB Article Q188001, Description of the Microsoft Computer Browser Service (see the FAQ from which this was copiedfor these links).

In my humble opinion this system does not always work well and needs a major overhaul. I have read that Windows XP fixes a lot of what is wrong with this system, but I am presently skeptical. Larry


4. RE: can not see the other computer on same network
nutvoot Jul-10-01 11:58 AM
In response to message 3
thanks it's really help me alot

| Home | Guides | How to | Reviews | Online Store | FAQ | Forums | Forum Archives |
| Links | News | Newsletter | About Dux | Advertising | Contact Info | Privacy |