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Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
UltraLmag Jun-25-01 09:16 PM
Sorry for my bad English.
I had read all your "How to" articles about networking and let me say that
they are great.
After I read those articles, I made work a Home LAN (two computers) and ICS between them.
Now my home network is working and are both connected to Internet just with one dial up connection to my ISP.
So thanks a lot.
Now I am trying to let my sister be part of my home network by win 98 SE dial up server. (All computers, have win 98 SE. Two of them are my home LAN that is working OK and the other one is my sister's).
I installed dial up server and I think is working OK. My sister phone call to
my computer and get connected (with a password).
We can meet ourselves by Netmeeting (Audio,Video,Chat and file transfers)
but we cannot see each other in network neighborhood. We also make ping to our IP and we "get pinged" (I do not know if this word exists. I am trying to say that ping is ok).
We both have the same protocols (i.e. TCP/IP and Files and Printers sharing).
I can see my two home LAN computers in network neighborhood but my sister's does not appears.
My sister's computer also have a dial up connection to her ISP (and just one
adapter in net configuration).
Is it possible to "create" two dial up adapters and "tell" somewhere that one is for your dial up server and the other one is for your dial up ISP
network?
Is that my trouble? Because I have just one Dial up adapter.
My Host is 192.168.0.1 (255.255.255.0).
My Client is 192.168.0.2 (255.255.255.0) with gateway on 192.168.0.1.
When my sister get connected she gets this IP 192.168.55.2 and my host get
(in addition to it static IP) this IP 192.168.55.1
I really do not know much about networks, but I think when my sister dial up to my host computer I am getting two different networks. And the second one is not getting recognize as my network neighborhood. (The three computers has the same workgroup name).
I really do not understand what is going on, because netmeeting let us share
files but in windows explorer or in network neighborhood her computer does
not appears. In her computer mine does not appears too.
Could you help me on doing this?
Thanks a lot.
Best Regards,
Patricio

1. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
lbyard Jun-26-01 10:08 AM
In response to message 0
Patricio, To enable file and printer sharing for your Sisterís dial-up, Install the NetBEUI on both computers and enable File and Printer Sharing. Also, on her computer, Select File and Printer Sharing component, click the Properties button, select Browse Master in the Property box, and choose Enabled in the Value box.

Is it possible to "create" two dial-up adapters and "tell" somewhere that one is for your dial up server and the other one is for your dial up ISP
network? No, but you can make multiple dial-up connections (configurations). For Windows 98 SE, this is done in My Computer, Dial-up Networking. Larry


2. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
UltraLmag Jun-30-01 03:07 AM
In response to message 1
Larry,
Sorry for the delay.
I Added Netbeui Protocol in addition to the TCP/IP Protocol I had in three computers, but it seems to cause a conflict in my network.
After I installed Netbeui, when I tried to look in my Network Neighborhood neither my computer nor the others computers appears and if you tried to look in "Entire Network" an error told you that you should have a network error and the other "pretty and helpful" information windows give you when and error occur.
When you suggested me to install Netbeui, you mean instead of TCP/IP?
If that was what your mean, is there another solution, cause many of my multiplayers games (like swat 3 EE, AOK, Longbow2 etc.) need TCP/IP to run.
If not, how could I solve that conflicts (If that is what is happening to me)?
Thanks a lot.

3. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
lbyard Jun-30-01 03:16 PM
In response to message 2
I meant to install NetBEUI in addition to TCP/IP. That should not cause the problems you are experiencing. Do the other computers work OK? Larry

4. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
UltraLmag Jul-09-01 02:57 AM
In response to message 3
Larry,
I reinstalled Netbeui Protocol in addition to TCP/IP and now I do not have any conflict. But I have the same problem. My home Lan is working fine, but when my sister's computers (remote client) dial up to my home Lan we (my two computers) cannot see her computer in network neighborhood. But We can ping together and chat by netmeeting.
When my sister click on her network neighborhood a windows network error occur. She cannot see her computer in network neighnorhood. Her network configuration is:
Client for microsoft network
dial up adapter
TCP/IP
NetBeui
Share printers and files for microsoft network.

When I executed winipcfg I get:
-NDIS 4.0 Driver: IP 10.0.0.1 : netmask 255.255.255.0
-ICShare Adapter: IP 192.168.55.1 : netmask 255.255.255.0

My client is: IP 10.0.0.2 : netmask 255.255.255.0 : gateway 10.0.0.1

My sister's client get: IP 192.168.55.2

Why her computer get an IP associated to my ICShare adapter instead of to my NDIS 4.0 Driver?
could be that the problem?
Thanks


5. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
lbyard Jul-09-01 07:13 PM
In response to message 4
Try having your sister make her computer a Browse Master (enabled, not automatic). See http://duxcw.com/faq/network/brenable.htm. there is a Microsoft Knowledge Base article on doing that with a remote computer, but I haven't time right now to find it. Larry

6. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
UltraLmag Jul-12-01 01:06 AM
In response to message 5
Larry,
One problem is solved. Now, after she enabled Browse Master, she can watch her computer in network neighborhood. But we cannot see each other in Network Neighborhood.
The extrange thing is that if i go to Start>Find>Computers>"her name computer", I can see her computer and share her files. But when she repeat that command in her computer, she cannot find my computer.
What else I could do to make work her computer?
Thanks a lot.

7. RE: Home LAN, ICS and Remote Client
lbyard Jul-12-01 04:36 PM
In response to message 6
Q. What are the configuration requirements to browse (see) computers and shared resources (files, drives, and printers) on a Windows peer-to-peer network?

A. The following requirements must be met to browse the Network Neighborhood/My Network Places (share files and printers):

1. You must have at least one of the NetBIOS protocols installed. The NetBIOS protocols are: NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, and TCP/IP. If TCP/IP does not work by itself, go to Start, Setting, Control Panel, Network, select the instance of TCP/IP bound to the network adapter for your local network, Properties, Bindings and be sure the Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing check boxes are checked. They should not be checked for any network adapters used to connect to the Internet.

2. All of the computers must be running a common protocol.

3. You must login to Windows or the Microsoft Client for Windows.

4. A unique computer name must be specified in Network configuration.

5. The workgroup name must be specified in Network configuration and should be the same as the other workstations.

6. File and Print Sharing must be installed to see yourself in Network Neighborhood. If File and Print Sharing is not listed in Network Configuration on other peers/workstations then you will not be able to view that machine in Network Neighborhood.

7. If the above requirements have been met, disable or enable Browse Masters. A computer that is infrequently used should not be a Browse Master. There must be at least one Browse Master.

See How to Network Two Windows 95/98 Computers for installation details and for instructions on sharing files and printers. Also, Windows help is useful.

If all else fails, install the NetBEUI protocol in addition to the TCP/IP protocol. If the NetBEUI protocol does not work with Windows 98, see Unable to Browse Network With the NetBEUI Protocol.


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